2002 News Alerts from RMGO

RMGO launches radio spots to educate Bedingfield

ROCKY MOUNTAIN GUN OWNERS

RMGO launches radio spots to educate, lobby 4th Congressional District Candidate Jeff Bedingfield

Wednesday, July 10, 2002 -- Rocky Mountain Gun Owners today launched a radio advertisement effort to force 4th Congressional District Candidate Jeff Bedingfield, a Greeley trial lawyer, to answer specific questions about his position on firearms issues.

"Jeff Bedingfield has voiced his support for a number of gun controls, and remains silent on others," said RMGO Chairman Damien Veatch. "With no voting record to prove his position on gun issues, Jeff Bedingfield is very dangerous to gun owners' rights."

Bedingfield told a group of Morgan County Republicans that he hadn't taken a position on the biggest gun issue facing the next Congress: the reauthorization, or repeal, of the largest gun ban in history.  The Feinstein Semi-Automatic ban, pushed hard by President Clinton and Sarah Brady, and enacted in 1994, sunsets in 2004.  That means Congress must either vote to reauthorize the ban -- many gun owners fear it will be broadened to include every semi-automatic rifle and shotgun -- or allow it to sunset.  Gun control advocates in Congress are unlikely to let it pass by without a fight.

"Bedingfield is endorsed by politicians who supported the 1994 ban, and he won't take a public position on it," Veatch said.  "Our attempt is to flush out his position on the Clinton Semi-Auto Ban and other gun control issues.  Our radio ads will be a great education tool, letting a wishy-washy politician know that banning firearms is not the answer to crime or terrorism."

The ads, which run across the Fourth Congressional District's more prominent radio stations, are scheduled to run through this week.

Rocky Mountain Gun Owners is Colorado's largest state-based gun rights lobby.

Click here to listen to the actual radio spots

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Congressional Candidate attacks RMGO staff

Congressional Candidate attacks RMGO staff

April 26, 2002 - Using a third party to do his attacking, 4th Congressional candidate Jeff Bedingfield (a Greeley attorney) filed a complaint with the Colorado Sec. of State, alleging RMGO Executive Director Dudley Brown violated state campaign law. Bedingfield, who has been smoked out by RMGO and Gun Owners of America as an opponent to gun rights, has decided to trample on First Amendment rights to free speech on his way to shredding our gun rights.

The complaint specifically states that while being a registered lobbyist Brown raised money for 4th Congressional District candidate Marilyn Musgrave, who also happens to serve in the Colorado Senate. But state law doesn't apply to federal candidates, as no less than 4 federal court cases have proven.

Bedingfield hid behind noted Fort Collins anti-gunner John Knesovich to file the complaint, but Knesovich himself is a liability: in 1996 Knesovich - who claims to be a Republican - lead a group called "Republicans for (Democrat) Guy Kelly", who ran an anti-gun campaign against Bob Schaffer, who has been a solid vote for gun owners. Kelly lost, but that didn't deter Knesovich, who later supported anti-gun Democrat Susan Kirkpatrick against Schaffer in 1998.

Gun Owners of America has sent two nationwide e-mails on this Congressional race, urging support for gun rights heroine Musgrave while exposing Bedingfield's anti-gun views. Bedingfield is reported by gun rights activists to have said "You shouldn't be allowed to bring a gun into an establishment that serves alcohol", showing his support for a restaurant ccw ban. Bedingfield has also been quoted as supporting a National ID card and a criminal safezone for schools.

Some believe Beddingfield’s attack is a way to silence gun owners in the election, who he must realize are squarely against him.

“I think Beddingfield wants to bleed RMGO dry with attorney fees and court costs,” said RMGO Chairman Damien Veatch. “This is the kind of thing we expect from Sarah Brady, not a Republican candidate for Congress in a strongly pro-gun district.”

Finally, GOA reported that "Bedingfield has hired liberal political consultant Steve Durham, who wrote in a 2000 memo that Republican leaders must urge pro-gun candidates 'not to run' for office."

Meanwhile, it looks like the more pro-gun candidate is running away from the pack.

A March poll of likely Republican Primary voters showed Musgrave at 39% support, with Jeff Beddingfield 3% and Fort Collins Mayor Ray Martinez at 16%. 36% of those polled responded that they were undecided at this time.

Though Ray Martinez dropped out of the race, it doesn't seemed to have helped Bedingfield: the newest poll shows Musgrave with an even bigger lead.

The latest available financial reports show the Musgrave campaign outdistancing her opponents at a strong pace as well.

End of Session, bad bill dead

Thankfully, HB1410 is dead

May 7, 2002 -

Finally, at midnight last night, the Colorado Legislature adjourned. Our State Constitution limits the session to 120 days, so any legislation still left on the table is considered dead.

Our emergency e-mail - and your corresponding calls to the Capitol -- yesterday morning was crucial in stopping the Step Backward bill, HB1410, and its monstrous child, SB229. SB229 was a harmless housekeeping bill, which was amended to include the same language as HB1410 late on Tuesday night.

Capitol hill staffers, who bear the brunt of the phone calls, reported to RMGO staff that their phones rang of the hook with RMGO activists who wanted to defeat HB1410's poor concealed carry language and come back next year with a much better bill. Those phone calls solidified the opposition of Senate conservatives against the issue, and may just have sent the message to legislative moderates that conservatives won't vote for any bill just because it has "concealed carry" in the title.

Fortunately, SB229 never saw a vote in the Senate. This was due in large part to Senate Majority Leader Bill Thiebaut's refusal to allow a vote, as well as the conservatives who made it known that they weren't going to support a bad bill. In other words, had SB229/HB1410 made it to the Senate floor, it likely would have died anyway.

Many legislators - and the NRA - failed to live by the Hippocratic oath: First, do no harm. A bill that removed the existing rights of current citizens would have been a violation of the Hippocratic oath.

Instead, they crafted a bill based on political necessity - many politicians simply wanted the cover to look pro-gun in the next elections, especially our Governor - that conceded many of battles we have been fighting for years.

The creature of this necessity was Senate Bill 60, and its even worse creation, House Bill 1410. NRA lobbyists knew quite well early in the session what they are admitting in the papers now - that a much better bill is likely to pass next year - but the NRA's intention was to give Gov. Owens help at regaining the gun owners' votes he lost after endorsing Amendment 22. What good would a bill be in 2003, after the election?

In the end, it may not matter: the NRA will endorse Gov. Owens, when "he's the lesser of two evils" will be their claim, perhaps followed by "We can't have a Democrat, can we?". What Gov. Owens probably won't learn, due largely to a weak Democrat opponent, is the lesson that George H. W. Bush learned in 1992: they might vote for you, but after you've burned your base they won't work hard and they won't spend hours over the kitchen table convincing their neighbors to vote for you.

No amount of NRA cajoling will fix that -- gun owners in Colorado aren't going to let Owens live this one down for quite a while, and shouldn't.

The best attitude to the Governor's reelection should be "You might win reelection this year, but you won't get my help doing it."

What now? First, there are elections all across the state, on virtually every level. Get deeply involved in these elections, using very specific criteria for your support.

Which candidates should you support? RMGO will publish the results of our candidate survey, but as of now they are incomplete. Therefore, we'll post our actual legislative survey for you to print out. With this in hand, you can ask candidates to put their name on the dotted line on very specific gun issues. Our suggestion is to only spend your valuable time helping candidates who answer the survey, and answer it 100% -- after all, there are simply too many races and too little time to spend helping 90 percenters.

The convention process, which is happening right now, is the perfect place to promote our agenda. Go to these events, even if you are not a delegate, and gather together with other gun rights supporters to put pressure on every politician. You'd be surprised how many people will join with you when they see you putting on the heat - you'll also be surprised by the number of people who are involved in politics and who do not care about issues.

If getting a concealed carry permit is a concern of yours, please hang tight: we are working on a short term solution to this problem and will announce it when we have that solution.

HB1242 dies in Sen. Judiciary, HB1410 to Sen. Agriculture and Approp.; HB1410 a "Step Backward" for Concealed Carry

HB1242 dies in Sen. Judiciary, HB1410 to Sen. Agriculture and Appropriations

 

April 25, 2002 - While the Senate Judiciary killed HB1242, the best concealed carry bill ever offered, the House passed the “Step Backward” concealed carry bill, HB1410.   Senate President Stan Matsunaka (D-Loveland) assigned HB1410 to the Agriculture committee, as well as the Senate Appropriations committee.

Expect HB1410 to be heard by the Agriculture committee on Tuesday, April 30th.


HB1410 a "Step Backward" for Concealed Carry

Many of you may have received mail lauding or read news reports (written by liberals, of course) attacking a concealed carry bill in the legislature. Unfortunately, neither of these perspectives gives you an accurate read on the legislation that just may pass this session.

House Bill 1410, being touted as the "compromise" bill, should be called the Gun Owner Surrender Act. Sponsored by Democrat Rep. Louis Tochtrop and Sen. Ken Chlouber, it is much like the concealed carry bills offered by the middle-of-the-road crowd in the past, with a few new twists: the training requirements are far-and-above the most onerous ever offered in the state legislature, and the permit it creates won't be valid in some areas of Colorado where current permits are valid.

Though gun rights hero State Rep. Dave Schultheis (R - Colo. Springs) is carrying a Vermont-style concealed carry bill that is greatly superior, a handful of anti-gun Democrat legislators have decided to support HB1410, making it more likely to pass.

Why would they do that? First of all, Senate President Stan Matsunaka (D - Loveland) is running for Congress against gun rights stalwart Sen. Marilyn Musgrave. Matsunaka, who has voted against concealed carry in the past, has decided to change his stripes in a blatant attempt at pandering to gun owners. The problem is that he is supporting a bill that has the support of the NRA but the opposition of the rank-and-file gun owners.

If you think this is at least a step forward, consider this: a large number of county sheriffs are now issuing permits in Colorado and rumor is circulating about a number of sheriffs who may be willing to issue statewide. Why, then, should gun rights activists settle for a bill that is a step backward?

House Bill 1410 has a number of fatal flaws. First and foremost is that the bill has very weak preemption language. This means that Denver, or another anti-gun city, may simply refuse to follow the directives of the bill while claiming "homerule" status. And, should HB1410 become law, cities like Denver will most certainly create criminal safezones, where even permit holders are not allowed to carry. What kind of areas would they designate "concealed carry free?" Virtually all city owned property, like sidewalks, roads, city buildings and parks would become areas where criminals can carry, but the permit holder will be forced to leave your weapon in the car or at home. This means that HB1410 may not solve one of the biggest problems in our state: Denver residents can't get permits, and their city is the most dangerous area in our state.

Since HB1410 stops a sheriff or chief from issuing permits outside of his county or city, this bill may just be the death of any chance for Denver residents to carry concealed.

HB1410 also creates a new criminal safezone of its own: public K-12 schools will be an even more dangerous zone, since law-abiding citizens are not allowed the tools of self defense. In the case of another Columbine, adults would have to wait for law enforcement to arrive before protecting students - doesn't that make you feel safe?

Training requirements are also a fatal flaw of HB1410. The House Criminal Justice Committee committed a criminal act itself when it made the already substantial training requirements even more difficult. To get a permit, you must show proof of taking a class - from an NRA certified instructor, of course - within the last 5 years. Veterans must likewise show pistol qualifications within the last 5 years.

That means that you may be a Vietnam veteran, with multiple tours in combat, but government bureaucrats don't trust you to carry concealed without a recent, approved class. Because of the added cost for applicants, this will mean less people will apply for a permit. The only upside is for the NRA: they will now be the government-sanctioned trainers for concealed carry.

You might even have a permit right now, but not have taken a handgun-specific training class in the last 5 years. That means you’d still have to take an NRA handgun course to get a new permit under HB1410.

HB1410 also requires the logging of your fingerprints. A deputy sheriff who handles issuing concealed weapons permits said his department currently only takes fingerprints because the law requires it - the background check itself is more than sufficient to verify that the applicant is law-abiding. When you apply for a permit via HB1410, your fingerprints are run through an FBI computer - and kept in their system for good. It creates a useful list of gun owners, which is the reason gun prohibitionists seek to require fingerprints: it makes a perfect list for government to confiscate firearms.

As Larimer County Sheriff Jim Alderden testified in committee, this bill is a step backward. Unless HB1410's major flaws can be corrected, this will be Colorado's concealed carry law for quite some time, if not forever. Few states have ever cleaned up a bad concealed carry law, a prospect we do not want to face.

This bill also allows sheriffs to deny the permit based on information obtained from their department, or other information that is "documentable." But this gives the permit applicant no method to cross-examine his/her accusers, seomthing that should be reprehensible to all Americans. Gun owners should have learned our lesson when Colorado's Brady Registration check was changed to allow a denial based on arrest, not conviction. This discretion allows sheriffs, who are already abusing their discretion by not issuing permits widely, to treat permit applicants as guilty until proven innocent.

And for those who already have permits, HB1410 voids them. This is a disservice to those who have spent their time and money to get a permit, only to have that permit revoked.

Scariest of all is that Senate Democrats are threatening to add unsafe storage requirements onto HB1410. Given the history of those involved, who are absolutely desperate to pass anything at any cost as long as the title says "concealed carry", we simply can't rely on them to resist attempts at turning this bill into an even bigger vehicle for gun control.

What can you do about it? Call your State Senator at 303-866-2316 immediately and tell him or her to fix House Bill 1410, or to kill it.  We'd rather have the current law and take our chances that the next election brings us a more pro-gun State Senate than pass 1410.

Vermont-style HB1242 gets initial House approval

Good CCW bill passes initial House Approval -- Bad CCW in Appropriations

April 15, 2002 - The House of Representatives gave initial approval to HB1242, the Vermont Style concealed carry bill, on second reading.  Third reading, where a recorded vote is taken, will not happen for at least a week.

Meanwhile, HB1410, which is the concealed carry bill that many believe is a step backward from current law, is scheduled in Appropriations committee.

New “Concealed Carry Compromise” a step backward

New “Concealed Carry Compromise” a step backward

April 1, 2002 - The newspapers have been hailing a deal cut in the backrooms of the capitol, but few have reported that this “compromise” is actually a step backward for Colorado gun rights.

Much like Senate Bill 60 (which died in a Senate committee earlier this session), HB1410 by Democrat Rep. Louis Tochtrop and GOP Sen. Ken Chlouber has all of the components demanded by anti-gunners, and virtually nothing to offer the gun rights community.

The bill has the following problems, with the potential for even more:

  • Sheriff Discretion – This turns a “shall issue” bill back into “may.”  If the majority of Colorado sheriffs used this discretion widely, there would be no need for a statewide bill.  If sheriffs are mad at having no discretion in a concealed carry bill, they have only themselves to blame.  Under this bill, sheriffs need show a “reasonable belief that documented previous behavior by the applicants makes it likely the applicant will present a danger to self or others…”  Never mind the idea that a citizen is innocent until proven guilty – sheriffs will be able to deny a permit based on virtually anything, which is the problem we face right now.
  • Preemption – Though there has been much discussion on this issue, it is clear that Denver and many other anti-gun cities will create their own standards for issuing and new safezones where permit holders are not allowed to carry.   HB1410 doesn’t have strong enough language to force these cities to uphold the standards of the bill, which will mean Colorado will again have a patchwork of laws that unfairly ban law-abiding citizens from the means to self protection.
  • New criminal safezones -- where criminals know they are the only people armed and can operate without fear of armed citizens. The current state law is relatively clear (federal law adds courthouses, airports and post offices), but Chlouber's bill creates new "do not carry" zones: schools.  How, then, are citizens expected to stop another Columbine incident?  Don't tell us we have to wait for Sheriff John Stone's keystone- cop antics: Colorado should continue to allow citizens the right to self-defense when picking up their children from school.
  • Fingerprint gathering – Though most sheriffs will admit that few – if any – applicants are ever denied based on information gathered through fingerprints, HB1410 makes it a requirement.  Currently, some Colorado Sheriff departments gather the fingerprints but do not wait for the results from the FBI – they know this search is unlikely to turn up any new information.  And what happens to those prints once the investigation is complete?  Though CBI is directed to destroy them, the FBI is free to add them to their growing database of information on citizens.  Citizens who want to carry concealed aren’t applying for the secret service: fingerprints aren’t needed, and only increase the complexity of the process.
  • 3 month delay – Giving sheriffs 90 days to issue the permit isn’t much comfort to citizens who need protection now.  Though HB1410 does allow for “emergency permits,” the process is daunting.  Fearful women shouldn’t be required to navigate the murky waters of this process when they only wish to protect themselves.
  • Government-mandated training – We don't require a "political test" before citizens are allowed to practice their First Amendment rights, so why should we accept it for our Second Amendment rights? Citizens can already purchase firearms without training, which is as it should be.  Leaving government out of this equation (at least on the training end of things) and letting private associations foster increased and better safety training has drastically decreased the number of firearms death in America – while the number of citizens and firearms has increased.  This shouldn’t be a surprise to anyone who follows government mandates – allowing citizens to make rational choices leaves the decision where it belongs: at an individual level.  RMGO urges anyone who thinks they will ever have contact with a firearm to obtain adequate, privately offered safety training, but government mandating that training will turn it into a bureaucratic rubber stamp process.  This is likely a part of the bill because the NRA makes money at training firearms trainers.  Previous concealed carry bills have had hunter safety training as the base level – this bill goes even further down the road to requiring gun owners to go through extensive training before even OWNING a firearm.
  • An early expiration of the permits already issued. A great number of citizens already have permits, and those permits shouldn't be tossed aside to satisfy the ambition of politicians.  HB1410 makes all previously issued permits expire in July 2003.
  • A statewide database of gun owners -- Decentralizing the list by letting Sheriffs maintain their own system would deny government yet another list of gun owners, but state capitol politicians have always tried to use concealed carry permits as a backdoor method to log and track those who carry, including requiring fingerprints.  Though HB1410 directs sheriffs to maintain these lists, having CBI conduct “concealed carry permit” background checks will give CBI a list of the state’s permit holders, effectively creating a statewide database.  This list is a perfect vehicle for cataloging all kinds of information about citizens, and isn’t needed to verify a permit’s authenticity.  Will this database be linked to license plates, allowing the State Patrol pull you over and view the database, flagging your vehicle as “dangerous citizen onboard?”
  • Jurisdiction only -- Since Stratton has started issuing to residents outside of their small town, the Sheriffs and Chiefs mafia are sure to ask for a provision stopping these renegades (it has come to our attention that Stratton has again ceased issuing permits). If they were doing their job, law enforcement in Stratton - which we understand to have a 2 year backlog for applicants - wouldn't need to issue permits to other Colorado residents.

Potential Problems (possible amendments)

  • Safe Storage – Denver Democrat Sen. Ken Gordon has announced that any concealed carry bill should have unsafe storage requirements within the bill – and since Democrats control the Senate, he very well may get that amendment passed.
  • Overt CBI database – Look for law enforcement to demand a realtime database of permit holders, centralized in the CBI office and accessible by officers at the flick of a switch.  This would create a veritable gold mine for anti-gunners to exploit.
  • Needs requirement – Listing a “need” to carry a concealed weapon has long been a favored method of law enforcement to deny permits.
  • Firearms logging - Some sheriffs - such as Arapahoe County leftist Republican Sheriff Pat Sullivan, who makes Rosie O'Donnell look pro-gun -- require a list of the firearms you own, along with serial numbers.
  • High fees - Law enforcement always decry the cost of these background checks and demand that any new permit system have exorbitant fees, but the actual cost of determining if an applicant is a felon is less than $10. Any permit system shouldn't turn into a money making scheme for your local sheriff.  Though SB60 isn't expensive right now, it will be unless the sponsor resists the amendments that are sure to come.
  • Additional Criminal Safezones – Too often, when bill sponsors believe they have a chance of passing their bill, they accept extremely anti-gun amendments to their bills.  The addition of criminal safezones in all government buildings and property (sidewalks, roads, city parks), sporting events, and other expansions to the current law will make a patchwork of zones where law-abiding citizens are defenseless and criminals are free to operate.
  • Title – Since Colorado legislative rules require amendments to fit under the title of any bill, legislation with vague or broad titles are extremely dangerous.  SB60 is title “Concerning Permits to Carry Concealed Handguns” which could be amended to shut down the sheriffs who issue now.  Additionally, amendments from either side of the aisle can gut the existing law.  Gun owners who expect leadership of either party to simply stop the passage of gun control laws need look no further than the 2000 Legislative session to see the folly of that trust.

More on this bill later as things develop, but HB1410 must be fixed or killed.


.50 Caliber Fun Shoot slated for May 3, 4 & 5

3rd Annual

 

 

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.50 Cal BMG Rifle & Machine Gun
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(other calibers welcome)

 

 

.50 cal BMG

 

Military Vehicle Display

 

20mm Swiss Solothurn

May 3, 4 & 5, 2002
Morgan County, Colorado 
(70 miles from downtown Denver, directions below , MAP)
Hosted by  Rocky Mountain Gun Owners &
Rocky Mountain Fifty Caliber Shooting Association

Times of Shoot                     Fri. 3:00 pm - 9:00 pm  (Fire conditions permitting,  i.e. tracers, incendiary)                           
Sat. 8:00 am - 10:00 pm (Fire conditions permitting,  i.e. tracers, incendiary)                          
Sun. 8:00 am - 12:00 Noon                
Gate Opens 7:00 am  Saturday and Sunday to general public

Fees:  Spectators $5.00 each (RMGO members $4 each)       Children under 12 FREE
Shooter's Space $80.00    Pre-Registered $70.00    Camping $15.00 (no hookups, no open fires)
Vendors $50.00 10’X10’ space (contact RMGO)

ALL SPECTATORS MUST USE HEARING PROTECTION!
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Rent a .50 cal. rifle to hit a reactive target!

5 shots $15.00 or 3 shots $10.00

Machine guns for rent (priced separately)

 

For Shooters Space information, contact:

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Vermont-style permit bill, HB1242, passes -- Poor CCW bill dies in Senate Committee

Vermont-style permit bill, HB1242, passes --
Poor CCW bill dies in Senate Committee

Feb. 14, 2002 -- Today the House State Affairs Committee passed Rep. Dave Schultheis’ HB1242, the good concealed carry permit bill, by a party line vote of 5-4 (all the committee’s Republicans supported the bill, while all the Democrats opposed it).

Schultheis framed his bill as a step toward “maximizing freedom and minimizing restrictions” on law-abiding Colorado citizens.  The bill contains reciprocity language, including a provision so that Vermont citizens (who have real concealed carry freedom with a permitless system) can exercise their rights to self-protection while in Colorado.

For years the compromisers have been trying to define “gun heroes” but failing miserably – most of their so-called heroes in the legislature are in opposition to real concealed carry reform.  Dave Schultheis, on the other hand, is truly one of those heroes who has shown true grit in sticking to his guns (if you’ll pardon the pun).

You can read a summary of the bill here.

Thanks to all who put pressure on committee members to push this one through, but don’t rest: we’ve got an even bigger battle now.

The bill was passed on to the House Appropriations Committee, where members aren’t as conservative as State Affairs.  We’ll advise when the Appropriations hearing gets closer, but that committee always has a huge backlog of bills.  This could delay HB1242 by as much as a month.


SB60 dead

Much to the dismay of the institutional gun lobby (which has studiously ignored the better concealed carry bill, so as not to appear too “pro-gun”) but not to RMGO, Sen. Ken Chlouber’s SB60 died in the Senate Judiciary Committee on Wednesday.  We opposed the bill for a great number of reasons, the greatest of which is that this year's debate will greatly affect the battle next year (when we stand a decent chance of passing a bill, given good results from the 2002 elections).

Once again, Chlouber (R-Leadville) tried to sell his bill as a restriction on renegade sheriffs who issue permits without any standards (current state law forces law enforcement to do full background checks and gather fingerprints).  Chlouber even added on an amendment to require applicants to apply only to their sheriff, which would eliminate the one safety valve citizens have right now. 

It was instructive to listen to the pro-gun activists, all of whom supported the concept of concealed carry but few of whom knew the sordid details of this compromise bill and why they should oppose it.  Why did this happen?  Simply put, it is three letters: N R A.  They ignored the better bill, and put all their effort into a sponsor who desperately wanted to pass ANY bill and a bill with dozens of holes.  For dozens of reasons, SB60 was a disaster, but the Colorado State Shooting Association, Firearms Coalition of Colorado, and others paraded up to heap praise on a bill they should have known was a dead duck (and their praises, therefore, only reinforced the bad items of the bill as starting points for next year's battle).

Though SB60’s proponents were willing to give up just about anything to pass the bill, Senate Democrats voted against the bill, and Sen. Mark Hillman (R-Burlington) took several opportunities to voice his displeasure at the bad provisions of the bill.

The Senate Judiciary also killed Sen. Pat Pascoe’s SB155, which would (just like SB60) stop “renegade sheriffs” from issuing permits to citizens outside of their counties.

Schultheis offers HB1242 -- Vermont-Style CCW Permits

Vermont-Style CCW Permits*
HB1242 by State Rep. Dave Schultheis

Full bill text
(requires Acrobat Reader)

Bill Summary

  • Requires each sheriff to issue a permit to any person who applies and is eligible to possess a handgun under federal and state law.
  • Requires permit be issued or denied within 15 days of application.
  • Makes permits effective in all areas of the state except in areas in which the carrying of firearms is prohibited by federal law.
  • Makes permits valid for 5 years and renewable for 5-year periods.
  • Requires each sheriff to request a CBI background check to determine eligibility, and allows a fee no greater than $100.
  • Prohibits a sheriff from imposing any criteria or requirements on a permit applicant beyond those specified in the Act.
  • Directs sheriffs to provide each applicant with information on safety courses available and law applicable to the legal use of deadly force.
  • Indemnifies sheriff from damages arising from the issuance of a permit if the sheriff acted in good faith in issuing the permit.
  • Provides reciprocity for permits issued by any state that accepts permits issued in Colorado.
  • Repeals authority of a chief of police to issue permits.
  • Allows existing permits to expire naturally.  Any permit issued prior to July 1, 2002 shall expire on expiration date specified on permit.

* Note: HB1242 is not a “Vermont Law” bill, as it still requires a permit.  A true “Vermont Law” is the absence of penalties for carrying concealed without a permit.  Therefore, HB1242 is considered a Vermont-STYLE permit bill: it puts the burden of proof on government to prove why a citizen is not allowed to possess a firearm (and therefore not allowed to carry).  If passed, HB1242 would be the second best CCW law in the nation.

 

Liberalize Concealed Carry

Liberalize Concealed Carry

by Ari Armstrong, January 22, 2002

The Colorado Freedom Report--www.FreeColorado.com

Liberalized concealed carry laws bring two main benefits. First, those in immediate danger of being attacked, such as women who are being stalked or threatened, can gain an effective means of self-defense. Second, regular citizens can prevent or deter many mass murders.

It is this second benefit that State Senator Ken Chlouber wishes to limit for Coloradans. He told the Rocky Mountain News January 17, "Today's law allows guns in kindergarten. The proposal that I'm making for [concealed carry] standards across the state prevents that."

True, today's concealed carry law allows some responsible adults to carry a concealed handgun to most locations. But the anti-gun lobby and its Republican apologists such as Chlouber do not want responsible citizens to protect children at schools. Instead, they promote policies that increase the risk of another Columbine-style murder spree. It is no coincidence that petty thugs who want to kill lots of people select targets where nobody is likely to be able to fight back.

True, the Colorado Constitution fails to protect the right to carry a concealed handgun:

The right of no person to keep and bear arms in defense of his home, person and property, or in aid of the civil power when thereto legally summoned, shall be called in question; but nothing herein contained shall be construed to justify the practice of carrying concealed weapons.

We can appreciate the document's strong support of open carry and the general right of self-defense. Many gun laws now enforced in Colorado flagrantly violate the clear protections offered by the Constitution. The Constitution's exception of concealed carry is an unjustified aberration. Fortunately, Colorado's Constitution does not place an outright ban on concealed carry. Thus, the matter is left to the legislature. Just because the Constitution (of Colorado) fails to protect the right to carry tools concealed for self-defense, doesn't mean the legislature must also fail to do so. Ideally, the legislature would simply repeal all the laws pertaining to concealed carry, which would make the practice legal.

Of course, laws that restrict gun ownership generally would still apply to the concealed carry of guns. Felons legally prohibited from owning guns are thereby also legally prohibited from carrying guns concealed. (Of course, if a felon is intent on committing new crimes, neither existing laws nor new restrictions on concealed carry will stop him or her from carrying a concealed weapon.)

 

What's the significance of having the ability to carry a gun concealed as well as on the hip? If you're carrying a gun on your hip, and somebody decides to commit a violent crime nearby, you will likely be the first target. When even a small percentage of the population carries concealed handguns, criminals never know which person might be able to shoot them, a fact which deters violent crime generally. In addition, it's difficult to wear a gun on the hip without ever concealing it. If you put on a jacket that covers the gun, you're now in questionable legal standing. Such a situation virtually ensures abuse by those in authority. Another consideration is practicality. Women tend to wear professional clothing that doesn't easily accommodate a gun. For instance, some women rarely wear belts that would support a holster and side-arm. However, women do tend to carry small bags that make it convenient to carry a tool for self-defense.

Both Bill Owens and Ken Chlouber have said they want a new concealed carry bill in order to further restrict the permit system now in place. Owens' spokesperson Dan Hopkins reminded the News that today's system "even allow[s] authorities to issue permits for people living outside their own jurisdictions."

Chlouber ads, "Today's law says any sheriff or chief of police may issue a permit to carry weapons concealed... They can issue those permits to anybody anywhere anytime at no charge with no investigation and no restrictions... A sheriff can walk outside his office... and start handing them out like popcorn."

I do not know of an example anywhere in Colorado that lives up to Chlouber's claims. However, his comments are still revealing. He assumes concealed carry is a privilege, not a right. He assumes self-defense should be restricted and fined and limited to PC zones.

But don't we have to compromise? That's what the NRA keeps telling us. Republicans have gotten so good at compromising away our right of self-defense that they now compromise even when it's of no conceivable value. Like Pavlov's dog, they have been conditioned to an automated response even when the benefits never arrive.

But political compromise -- which means we get something good but not as good as what we ultimately want -- can never justify selling out our principles. Chlouber's main error is not that he's running a bad bill, but that he has adopted the language of the anti-gun lobby in an attempt to justify his bill. That's a recipe for failure. Republicans seem scarcely able to look past the ends of their noses. It is only a matter of time before the anti-gun lobby quotes Chlouber in an attempt to justify more severe restrictions on general gun sales. "We don't want gun sellers handing out guns like popcorn, do we?"

Indeed, already it is difficult to tell the difference between the rhetoric of John Head, co-president of Sane Alternatives to the Firearms Epidemic, the name of which likens gun ownership to a disease, and Republican Ken Chlouber. Head told the News, "If [Chlouber's] law is passed, a Seven-Eleven clerk would have more discretion when selling cigarettes than a sheriff would have when issuing a concealed handgun permit."

It is true that Head's statement is even worse than Chlouber's. Head is intentionally misleading, because, while sheriffs would have little discretion in issuing permits, they would be forced by law to issue permits with severe restrictions. Of course, these restrictions would be much more severe than those that apply to the purchase of cigarettes. But the truth has never been any great obstacle to John Head's ambitions.

It is telling that Head draws an analogy between the "discretion" open to a private business person in doing business and the "discretion" of the authorities in doling out our rights. In a market, we are free to determine the conditions under which we sell goods or services. Head suggests that our rights are goods owned by politicians that we have to buy back, if they'll let us. Perhaps John Head's intellectual great-great grandson will argue that book permits should also be subject to the "discretion" of the authorities.

I am not arguing that Ken Chlouber has fallen to the same level as John Head. It is clear, however, that Chlouber has sacrificed principles in order to appease the John Heads and Bill Owenses of the world. It is this sort of compromise, a compromise of principle, that Ayn Rand rightly condemns: "In any compromise between good and evil, it is only evil that can profit."

Fortunately, Rocky Mountain Gun Owners has pointed out the errors of Chlouber's bill. RMGO has also begun to promote a considerably better bill. For more information, please see [updated RMGO page].

The Colorado Freedom Report--www.FreeColorado.com

SB60: Concealed carry – and gun control, all in one package

Senate Bill 60 by Ken Chlouber
Concealed carry reform – and gun control, all in one package

Jan. 29, 2002 - Though the media is touting Senate Bill 60 as a “concealed carry” bill, this legislation has serious flaws if you actually believe in freedom.  In almost every area of concern, SB60 moves Colorado concealed carry law backward, not forward.  For those currently with concealed carry permits, it is even worse.

Most of SB60’s adherents suggest this bill is “a step forward” and they are right: it is a firm step toward gun control.  Senate sponsor Ken Chlouber (R-Leadville) confirms this when he attempts to sell this bill to the public as a method to stop renegade sheriffs from issuing permits so widely.

Colorado’s law is not entirely bad – a few simple changes, as opposed to a 26-page behemoth bill like SB60, will fix the issuing problem quickly.   Colorado shouldn’t pass a bill if it is this laden with problems.

Below are the main concerns with SB60:

  • New criminal safezones -- where criminals know they are the only people armed and can operate without fear of armed citizens. The current state law is relatively clear (federal law adds courthouses, airports and post offices), but Chlouber's bill creates new "do not carry" zones: schools, college, or university grounds.  In fact, the former President of CSSA has said "I also would not sign on to a bill which allowed every Tom, Dick and Harry (who has a concealed carry permit) to bring a weapon onto school grounds…" though permit holders have that right now.  How, then, are citizens expected to stop another Columbine incident?  Don't tell us we have to wait for Sheriff John Stone's keystone- cop antics: Colorado should continue to allow citizens the right to self-defense when picking up their children from school.  And CSU students shouldn’t leave in fear because state law bars permitted students from self-defense while on campus.
  • Fingerprint gathering – Though most sheriffs will admit that few – if any – applicants are ever denied based on information gathered through fingerprints, SB60 makes it a requirement.  Currently, some Colorado Sheriff departments gather the fingerprints but do not wait for the results from the FBI – they know this search is unlikely to turn up any new information.  And what happens to those prints once the investigation is complete?  Though CBI is directed to destroy them, the FBI is free to add them to their growing database of information on citizens.  Citizens who want to carry concealed aren’t applying for the secret service: fingerprints aren’t needed, and only increase the complexity of the process.
  • 3 month delay – Giving sheriffs 90 days to issue the permit isn’t much comfort to citizens who need protection now.  Though SB60 does allow for “emergency permits,” the process is daunting.  Fearful women shouldn’t be required to navigate the murky waters of this process when they only wish to protect themselves.
  • Government-mandated training -- We don't require a "political test" before citizens are allowed to practice their First Amendment rights, so why should we accept it for our Second Amendment rights? Citizens can already purchase firearms without training, which is as it should be.  Leaving government out of this equation (at least on the training end of things) and letting private associations foster increased and better safety training has drastically decreased the number of firearms death in America – while the number of citizens and firearms has increased.  This shouldn’t be a surprise to anyone who follows government mandates – allowing citizens to make rational choices leaves the decision where it belongs: at an individual level.  RMGO urges anyone who thinks they will ever have contact with a firearm to obtain adequate, privately offered safety training, but government mandating that training will turn it into a bureaucratic rubber stamp process.  This is likely a part of the bill because the NRA makes money at training firearms trainers.
  • An early expiration of the permits already issued. A great number of citizens already have permits, and those permits shouldn't be tossed aside to satisfy the ambition of politicians.  SB60 makes all previously issued permits expire in July 2003.
  • A statewide database of gun owners -- Decentralizing the list by letting Sheriffs maintain their own system would deny government yet another list of gun owners, but state capitol politicians have always tried to use concealed carry permits as a backdoor method to log and track those who carry, including requiring fingerprints.  Though SB60 directs sheriffs to maintain these lists, having CBI conduct “concealed carry permit” background checks will give CBI a list of the state’s permit holders, effectively creating a statewide database.  This list is a perfect vehicle for cataloging all kinds of information about citizens, and isn’t needed to verify a permit’s authenticity.  Will this database be linked to license plates, allowing the State Patrol pull you over and view the database, flagging your vehicle as “dangerous citizen onboard?”
  • Jurisdiction only -- Since Stratton has started issuing to residents outside of their small town, the Sheriffs and Chiefs mafia are sure to ask for a provision stopping these renegades (it has come to our attention that Stratton has again ceased issuing permits). If they were doing their job, law enforcement in Stratton - which we understand to have a 2 year backlog for applicants - wouldn't need to issue permits to other Colorado residents.

Potential Problems (possible amendments)

  • Sheriff Discretion – This turns a “shall issue” bill back into “may.”  If the majority of Colorado sheriffs used this discretion widely, there would be no need for a statewide bill.  If sheriffs are mad at having no discretion in a concealed carry bill, they have only themselves to blame.
  • Overt CBI database – Look for law enforcement to demand a realtime database of permit holders, centralized in the CBI office and accessible by officers at the flick of a switch.  This would create a veritable gold mine for anti-gunners to exploit.
  • Needs requirement – Listing a “need” to carry a concealed weapon has long been a favored method of law enforcement to deny permits.
  • Firearms logging - Some sheriffs - such as Arapahoe County leftist Republican Sheriff Pat Sullivan, who makes Rosie O'Donnell look pro-gun -- require a list of the firearms you own, along with serial numbers.
  • High fees - Law enforcement always decry the cost of these background checks and demand that any new permit system have exorbitant fees, but the actual cost of determining if an applicant is a felon is less than $10. Any permit system shouldn't turn into a money making scheme for your local sheriff.  Though SB60 isn't expensive right now, it will be unless the sponsor resists the amendments that are sure to come.
  • Additional Criminal Safezones – Too often, when bill sponsors believe they have a chance of passing their bill, they accept extremely anti-gun amendments to their bills.  The addition of criminal safezones in all government buildings and property (sidewalks, roads, city parks), sporting events, and other expansions to the current law will make a patchwork of zones where law-abiding citizens are defenseless and criminals are free to operate.
  • Title – Since Colorado legislative rules require amendments to fit under the title of any bill, legislation with vague or broad titles are extremely dangerous.  SB60 is title “Concerning Permits to Carry Concealed Handguns” which could be amended to shut down the sheriffs who issue now.  Additionally, amendments from either side of the aisle can gut the existing law.  Gun owners who expect leadership of either party to simply stop the passage of gun control laws need look no further than the 2000 Legislative session to see the folly of that trust.

Owens concealed carry bill a step backward

Senate Bill 60 by Ken Chlouber
Concealed carry reform – and gun control, all in one package

Jan. 29, 2002 - Though the media is touting Senate Bill 60 as a “concealed carry” bill, this legislation has serious flaws if you actually believe in freedom.  In almost every area of concern, SB60 moves Colorado concealed carry law backward, not forward.  For those currently with concealed carry permits, it is even worse.

Most of SB60’s adherents suggest this bill is “a step forward” and they are right: it is a firm step toward gun control.  Senate sponsor Ken Chlouber (R-Leadville) confirms this when he attempts to sell this bill to the public as a method to stop renegade sheriffs from issuing permits so widely.

Colorado’s law is not entirely bad – a few simple changes, as opposed to a 26-page behemoth bill like SB60, will fix the issuing problem quickly.   Colorado shouldn’t pass a bill if it is this laden with problems.

Below are the main concerns with SB60:

  • New criminal safezones -- where criminals know they are the only people armed and can operate without fear of armed citizens. The current state law is relatively clear (federal law adds courthouses, airports and post offices), but Chlouber's bill creates new "do not carry" zones: schools, college, or university grounds.  In fact, the former President of CSSA has said "I also would not sign on to a bill which allowed every Tom, Dick and Harry (who has a concealed carry permit) to bring a weapon onto school grounds…" though permit holders have that right now.  How, then, are citizens expected to stop another Columbine incident?  Don't tell us we have to wait for Sheriff John Stone's keystone- cop antics: Colorado should continue to allow citizens the right to self-defense when picking up their children from school.  And CSU students shouldn’t leave in fear because state law bars permitted students from self-defense while on campus.
  • Fingerprint gathering – Though most sheriffs will admit that few – if any – applicants are ever denied based on information gathered through fingerprints, SB60 makes it a requirement.  Currently, some Colorado Sheriff departments gather the fingerprints but do not wait for the results from the FBI – they know this search is unlikely to turn up any new information.  And what happens to those prints once the investigation is complete?  Though CBI is directed to destroy them, the FBI is free to add them to their growing database of information on citizens.  Citizens who want to carry concealed aren’t applying for the secret service: fingerprints aren’t needed, and only increase the complexity of the process.
  • 3 month delay – Giving sheriffs 90 days to issue the permit isn’t much comfort to citizens who need protection now.  Though SB60 does allow for “emergency permits,” the process is daunting.  Fearful women shouldn’t be required to navigate the murky waters of this process when they only wish to protect themselves.
  • Government-mandated training -- We don't require a "political test" before citizens are allowed to practice their First Amendment rights, so why should we accept it for our Second Amendment rights? Citizens can already purchase firearms without training, which is as it should be.  Leaving government out of this equation (at least on the training end of things) and letting private associations foster increased and better safety training has drastically decreased the number of firearms death in America – while the number of citizens and firearms has increased.  This shouldn’t be a surprise to anyone who follows government mandates – allowing citizens to make rational choices leaves the decision where it belongs: at an individual level.  RMGO urges anyone who thinks they will ever have contact with a firearm to obtain adequate, privately offered safety training, but government mandating that training will turn it into a bureaucratic rubber stamp process.  This is likely a part of the bill because the NRA makes money at training firearms trainers.
  • An early expiration of the permits already issued. A great number of citizens already have permits, and those permits shouldn't be tossed aside to satisfy the ambition of politicians.  SB60 makes all previously issued permits expire in July 2003.
  • A statewide database of gun owners -- Decentralizing the list by letting Sheriffs maintain their own system would deny government yet another list of gun owners, but state capitol politicians have always tried to use concealed carry permits as a backdoor method to log and track those who carry, including requiring fingerprints.  Though SB60 directs sheriffs to maintain these lists, having CBI conduct “concealed carry permit” background checks will give CBI a list of the state’s permit holders, effectively creating a statewide database.  This list is a perfect vehicle for cataloging all kinds of information about citizens, and isn’t needed to verify a permit’s authenticity.  Will this database be linked to license plates, allowing the State Patrol pull you over and view the database, flagging your vehicle as “dangerous citizen onboard?”
  • Jurisdiction only -- Since Stratton has started issuing to residents outside of their small town, the Sheriffs and Chiefs mafia are sure to ask for a provision stopping these renegades (it has come to our attention that Stratton has again ceased issuing permits). If they were doing their job, law enforcement in Stratton - which we understand to have a 2 year backlog for applicants - wouldn't need to issue permits to other Colorado residents.

Potential Problems (possible amendments)

  • Sheriff Discretion – This turns a “shall issue” bill back into “may.”  If the majority of Colorado sheriffs used this discretion widely, there would be no need for a statewide bill.  If sheriffs are mad at having no discretion in a concealed carry bill, they have only themselves to blame.
  • Overt CBI database – Look for law enforcement to demand a realtime database of permit holders, centralized in the CBI office and accessible by officers at the flick of a switch.  This would create a veritable gold mine for anti-gunners to exploit.
  • Needs requirement – Listing a “need” to carry a concealed weapon has long been a favored method of law enforcement to deny permits.
  • Firearms logging - Some sheriffs - such as Arapahoe County leftist Republican Sheriff Pat Sullivan, who makes Rosie O'Donnell look pro-gun -- require a list of the firearms you own, along with serial numbers.
  • High fees - Law enforcement always decry the cost of these background checks and demand that any new permit system have exorbitant fees, but the actual cost of determining if an applicant is a felon is less than $10. Any permit system shouldn't turn into a money making scheme for your local sheriff.  Though SB60 isn't expensive right now, it will be unless the sponsor resists the amendments that are sure to come.
  • Additional Criminal Safezones – Too often, when bill sponsors believe they have a chance of passing their bill, they accept extremely anti-gun amendments to their bills.  The addition of criminal safezones in all government buildings and property (sidewalks, roads, city parks), sporting events, and other expansions to the current law will make a patchwork of zones where law-abiding citizens are defenseless and criminals are free to operate.
  • Title – Since Colorado legislative rules require amendments to fit under the title of any bill, legislation with vague or broad titles are extremely dangerous.  SB60 is title “Concerning Permits to Carry Concealed Handguns” which could be amended to shut down the sheriffs who issue now.  Additionally, amendments from either side of the aisle can gut the existing law.  Gun owners who expect leadership of either party to simply stop the passage of gun control laws need look no further than the 2000 Legislative session to see the folly of that trust.

RMGO launches radio spots to educate Bedingfield

ROCKY MOUNTAIN GUN OWNERS

RMGO launches radio spots to educate, lobby 4th Congressional District Candidate Jeff Bedingfield

Wednesday, July 10, 2002 -- Rocky Mountain Gun Owners today launched a radio advertisement effort to force 4th Congressional District Candidate Jeff Bedingfield, a Greeley trial lawyer, to answer specific questions about his position on firearms issues.

"Jeff Bedingfield has voiced his support for a number of gun controls, and remains silent on others," said RMGO Chairman Damien Veatch. "With no voting record to prove his position on gun issues, Jeff Bedingfield is very dangerous to gun owners' rights."

Bedingfield told a group of Morgan County Republicans that he hadn't taken a position on the biggest gun issue facing the next Congress: the reauthorization, or repeal, of the largest gun ban in history.  The Feinstein Semi-Automatic ban, pushed hard by President Clinton and Sarah Brady, and enacted in 1994, sunsets in 2004.  That means Congress must either vote to reauthorize the ban -- many gun owners fear it will be broadened to include every semi-automatic rifle and shotgun -- or allow it to sunset.  Gun control advocates in Congress are unlikely to let it pass by without a fight.

"Bedingfield is endorsed by politicians who supported the 1994 ban, and he won't take a public position on it," Veatch said.  "Our attempt is to flush out his position on the Clinton Semi-Auto Ban and other gun control issues.  Our radio ads will be a great education tool, letting a wishy-washy politician know that banning firearms is not the answer to crime or terrorism."

The ads, which run across the Fourth Congressional District's more prominent radio stations, are scheduled to run through this week.

Rocky Mountain Gun Owners is Colorado's largest state-based gun rights lobby.

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